tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post4062684499005963767..comments2024-03-25T11:45:15.757+00:00Comments on The Saint Lawrence Press Blog: Ember Saturday in PentecostRubricariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-65014452554068916932020-06-05T08:32:28.184+00:002020-06-05T08:32:28.184+00:00Unknown,
Thank you for the very clear explanation....Unknown,<br />Thank you for the very clear explanation.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-21834457141624218672020-06-04T18:21:01.688+00:002020-06-04T18:21:01.688+00:00I see this discussion thread is a few years old, s...I see this discussion thread is a few years old, so I don't know if anyone will see it, BUT...<br />There is no Alleluia at the end of the Sequence because it is preceded by the Tract. The normal position of any sequence is following (hence the name) the Alleluia verse. It is sandwiched between the verse and the repetition of the Alleluia. The Alleluia at the end of the Sequence is really the repetition of the Alleluia that follows the Alleluia verse. The repetition was just delayed until after the Sequence. (This is a reflection of the historical and liturgical origins of the Sequence, which was began as a trope on the Alleluia.)<br />But since the Tract comes before the Sequence on Ember Saturday (which is unusual), there is no Alleluia to repeat.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02455158303367688044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-15911826332605159162016-05-27T15:13:33.649+00:002016-05-27T15:13:33.649+00:00I always thought the omission of the Alleluia from...I always thought the omission of the Alleluia from the Sequence on the last day of the Octave was a way to show that the Paschal season was about to end, but this is just a personal opinion. Now being that after the Epistle there is a Tract (Laudate) and then the Sequence, and that a Sequence is considered to form a contiguous Proper (Gradual-Alleluia/Tract-Sequence) between the Epistle and Gospel, then it makes no sense to end the Sequence with an Alleluia when the Tract does not contain the word, so I see this rubric as a practical measure to make the text consistent.<br /><br />Where things get screwed up is when the "short cut" Ember Mass is used wherein the Alleluia w/ Veni Sancte verse is then sung after the Epistle, there is no Tract, and then I believe Alleluia is sung at the end of the Sequence, so if I recall correctly, '62ville has both a Sequence with an Alleluia and without Alleluia depending on which form is chosen. Hence, the confusion over the rubric among different Ordines and hand Missals.Joanneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496552906164909711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-19685801443058543172016-05-22T06:28:38.719+00:002016-05-22T06:28:38.719+00:00The Sequence sans “Alleluia” is interesting. Most ...The Sequence sans “Alleluia” is interesting. Most choirs I know break into medieval- style harmonies on the “Amen. Alleluia” so I would immediately notice its absence. Is there a reason for its absence, and do we have any idea about its origins? <br /><br />For what it is worth, it was not mentioned in the ORDO to pray the commemoration for the church. Matthew Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00958673318312786618noreply@blogger.com