tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post5437559131086657617..comments2024-03-25T11:45:15.757+00:00Comments on The Saint Lawrence Press Blog: All Saints' DayRubricariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-23204837815366838742010-11-11T11:51:15.923+00:002010-11-11T11:51:15.923+00:00Dear Flying Dutchman,
I would be interested to se...Dear Flying Dutchman,<br /><br />I would be interested to see the local customary for Wardour. My guess would be that with the consent of competent authority the feast of Dedication was perpetually transferred, which seems to have been the usual practice in such cases. It would be interesting to find out - I will contact a friend who might know.<br /><br />Vespers of the Dead following Vespers of the day happened quite a few times before the 1911 reform - notably the Sundays of Advent and Lent in addition to All Saint's Day. (Plus where Choral Office of the Dead was celebrated by custom for various deceased benefactors etc). <br /><br />As Vespers of the Dead was often followed by Mattins and Lauds pro Defunctis one ends up with what is in effect a Vigil service, an analysis of the intrinsic structure of which has strong parallels with the 'All Night Vigil' as currently celebrated in Russian parishes.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-28954521453007790952010-11-10T21:27:33.855+00:002010-11-10T21:27:33.855+00:00I find it interesting that 2nd Vespers of All Sain...I find it interesting that 2nd Vespers of All Saints was immediately followed by Vespers of All Souls.<br /><br />It seems a great pity that the ancient custom of beginning the liturgical day with Vespers has all but been abandoned. Perhaps it is not too late to do something about this?<br /><br />For historical reasons, I take a special interest in All Saints, Wardour Castle. This chapel was dedicated to All Saints on 1 November 1776. Since 1 November is permanently impeded by All Saints, I wonder when the feast of the anniversary of the dedication would normally have been celebrated? Would it have been on 3 November in most years and on 2 November when that day fell on a Sunday (with All Souls being transferred to 3 November)? And how would the two overlapping Octaves of All Saints and the Dedication of the Church have been celebrated?The Flying Dutchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10057552757013226176noreply@blogger.com