tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post753471358659520545..comments2024-03-25T11:45:15.757+00:00Comments on The Saint Lawrence Press Blog: Candlemass - The Purification of the Blessed Virgin MaryRubricariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-9686871704639118532010-02-05T16:39:57.293+00:002010-02-05T16:39:57.293+00:00Andy - excellent point.Andy - excellent point.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-90873582934961061182010-02-05T16:12:48.864+00:002010-02-05T16:12:48.864+00:00Today is February 5, the Double Feast of Saint Aga...Today is February 5, the Double Feast of Saint Agatha. Isn't today one of the VERY rare days of the year in which Vespers "from the chapter onwards of the following" actually means something, since Saint Agatha has proper antiphons and psalms that will be sung, and then from the chapter onwards the office of Saint Bruno is sung?Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05720615264166574876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-85851231384016716912010-02-04T14:44:21.329+00:002010-02-04T14:44:21.329+00:00"AI know of a certain church in London where ..."AI know of a certain church in London where about twenty sets are rotting quietly away on the floor of a store-room."<br /><br />If only those little treasures could be sent to Manila...APhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11395966255346711744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-33221333853606816982010-02-03T15:22:24.761+00:002010-02-03T15:22:24.761+00:00Francis,
Indeed, something I have not seen - yet!...Francis,<br /><br />Indeed, something I have not seen - yet!<br /><br />I suppose folded chasubles were <b>violated</b>. Few things can be more ancient or more Roman than their use yet that didn't stop their use being attacked. A friend of mine has a set in his sacristy that have had brocade etc cut off them and I know of a certain church in London where about twenty sets are rotting quietly away on the floor of a store-room.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-73077037421420238072010-02-03T14:58:58.328+00:002010-02-03T14:58:58.328+00:00Thank you for that explanation. That sounds like a...Thank you for that explanation. That sounds like a rare liturgical treat to which few people will ever be privileged.<br /><br />When I said "violate chasubles" naturally I mean "violet" - I was not trying to suggest that folded chasubles were somehow violated or mutilated!Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-14938803384938187072010-02-02T23:51:09.957+00:002010-02-02T23:51:09.957+00:00Francis,
Violet folded chasubles are worn for the...Francis,<br /><br />Violet folded chasubles are worn for the blessing of candles and procession.<br /><br />If the Mass is of a 'gesima' Sunday then the deacon and subdeacon don dalmatic and tunicle when the celebrant exchanges his cope for a chasuble.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-87589728080656726982010-02-02T16:01:41.935+00:002010-02-02T16:01:41.935+00:00"When the feast falls on Septuagesima or one ..."When the feast falls on Septuagesima or one of other 'Gesima' Sundays the blessing of candles takes place on the Sunday but the feast is transferred to the following Monday."<br /><br />If that were to happen would violet dalmatics be used for the blessing (as they are used at the -gesima Masses), or would the ministers use violate chasubles for the procession and then change into violet dalmatics for the Mass?Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-51480481175328462392010-02-02T14:43:12.421+00:002010-02-02T14:43:12.421+00:00Andy,
A rubric in the Breviary (in the Ordinarium...Andy,<br /><br />A rubric in the Breviary (in the <i>Ordinarium</i> of the Office) deals precisely with your question.<br /><br /><i>Post Purificationem, id est a Completorio diei 2 Februarii, etiam quando transferatur Festum Purificationis beate Mariae Virginis, usque ad Nonam Sabbati ante Dominicam I Quadragesimae inclusive: Ave Regina, caelorum etc</i><br /><br /><br />So when Candlemass fall on Septuagesima etc the antiphon <i>Ave Regina</i> is still sung from Compline of the 2nd February even if the feast is transferred to the following day.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-29247699850369797242010-02-02T13:20:51.025+00:002010-02-02T13:20:51.025+00:00If February 2nd were to fall on one of the "g...If February 2nd were to fall on one of the "gesima" Sundays and the feast of the Purification would be moved to February 3, would the Marian antiphon "Alma Redemptoris Mater" be sung for the last time on Feb 2 still, or would it be sung for the last time at 2nd Vespers of the Purification that would that year take place on February 3?Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05720615264166574876noreply@blogger.com