tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post8342460087332480874..comments2024-03-25T11:45:15.757+00:00Comments on The Saint Lawrence Press Blog: The Vigil of PentecostRubricariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-53398877899714655062024-02-16T14:51:59.700+00:002024-02-16T14:51:59.700+00:00@Anonymous,
The Baptismal water blessed on Holy Sa...@Anonymous,<br />The Baptismal water blessed on Holy Saturday would have been kept and fresh water blessed on the Vigil of Pentecost. After the blessings I believe the usual practice was to keep it in air tight jars and pour into the font as required.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-23252086078871753672024-02-13T18:16:52.804+00:002024-02-13T18:16:52.804+00:00What happened with the water blessed on Easter? Wa...What happened with the water blessed on Easter? Was it blessed twice? Or was it removed and new water was blessed at the Vigil of Pentecost?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-88809103701042888652021-05-09T11:26:09.619+00:002021-05-09T11:26:09.619+00:00You meant to write Kyrie eleison instead of Agnus ...You meant to write Kyrie eleison instead of Agnus Dei, didn't you?Paulushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03754760013186745228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-25980968514111882102014-06-22T23:14:25.883+00:002014-06-22T23:14:25.883+00:00In fact one might observe that the rubric in the m...In fact one might observe that the rubric in the missal orders the special baptismal Hanc igitur at Easter from holy Saturday to Low Saturday. <br />One might surmise the 'restorers'/destroyers were keen to excise the Pentecost vigil on the questionable ground that they were so excited by thinking they had discovered that Easter was the 'only proper' baptismal time - without of course considering banning it at other times- although don't you bet they were itching to? This sort of view tends towards the strange idea that if you missed a date the Lord wants you, what? to wait for next year? The Pentecost baptismal liturgy is amongst other things a sign of God's continuing mercy.<br />I was impressed by the Trad's observations about Pentecost confirming the permanence of the resurrection. What a pity some others didn't see that. PseudonymousposterJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12026854581183874101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-49131979770256236122014-06-18T15:48:20.358+00:002014-06-18T15:48:20.358+00:00Some great trouble in posting here. I appreciate t...Some great trouble in posting here. I appreciate the robot check but quite simply some of the characters were invisible on this phone. By chance the fourth or fifth set was short and visible, so thanks for that. PseudonymousposterJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12026854581183874101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-26908830168682702242014-06-18T15:43:51.316+00:002014-06-18T15:43:51.316+00:00I was commenting on the blog of the esteemed Rad T...I was commenting on the blog of the esteemed Rad Trad when I had these thoughts. They might be appropriately revisited on a liturgical site. <br /><br />I had said that both Easter and Whitsun now manage to look like special seven day octaves. I then foolishly said that I wondered if they were eight in past millenniums since we know Trinity Sunday is a newer feast but that both Low Sunday and Pentecost 1 are noticeable departures from the seven festal days proceeding them. <br /><br />I mentioned getting to the Ember Friday mass, a standard shaped mass - by 1960? <br />On Saturday I opened my 1960 missal. I had forgotten the five lessons before the Gloria and epistle - the last repeated from Advent.<br />So the Saturday After the Pentecost vigil is a mass with readings like the vigil - with collects but alleluias instead of tracts. So I said that it seems to be the vigil that is echoed an octave later. <br /><br />So here's the point. We know - some of us only from you Rubricarius, - that the baptismal Masses of Pascha and Pentecost were celebrated in daylight on the Saturdays. And not after ten o'clock at night. They were separate occasions with different texts. These ARE eight day octaves. They run from Saturday to Saturday, ending with I vespers of the following Sunday. <br /><br />I then went on to wonder if the theme of this ember day - fasting - in a big way - was a western counterpart to the Byzantine rite kneeling prayers that function to signal to the faithful that the particular privileges of pashaltide are over. Complex layers. It is a festal octave, containing Ember days that remind the faithful to recommence fasting. So Mr junior deacon Bugnini was wrong. Again. PseudonymousposterJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12026854581183874101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-42894450998768381412014-06-10T09:20:28.893+00:002014-06-10T09:20:28.893+00:00Very sad, both for the loss of the photographic re...Very sad, both for the loss of the photographic record and the fall of St Clement's as a point of reference.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669950994040167422.post-28023638583757901532014-06-07T15:45:26.976+00:002014-06-07T15:45:26.976+00:00There were photographs of the solemn celebration o...There were photographs of the solemn celebration of the Vigil of Pentecost at S. Clement's prior to 2010, although they no longer appear owing to the Sovietization of their web site. I believe we started celebrating the Vigil solemnly around 1999, and it continued until 2010 or 2011, after which it was abandoned.Paul Goingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06479425203740052841noreply@blogger.com