It is, in the sense the Mass of the Sunday is resumed (where of obligation) today. The Office of the Sunday does not get transferred, unlike the Sunday within the Octave of the Nativity in certain cases, as it is commemorated in the Office of the Holy Family.
The three letters in brackets at the beginning (pdF) seem to me a bit confusing. According to the Ordo, they relate to the antiphones and psalms of Matins and Lauds, but how could you have proper (p), Sunday (d) and festal (F) at the same time?
My breviary says, the office is the same in the octave - apart from the proper Matins readings and Benedictus/Magnificat antiphones indicated at each day -, so I don't quite get what (pdF) signifies in this case.
Also things like 'Mat LL in 1n Audet aliquis'? I don't have a reading in the 1st nocturn of today starting like this.
The three letters relate to Mattins, Lauds and Prime. So, for instance, within this Octave they are pdF. At Prime on a feast the psalms are 53, 118i & 118ii as opposed to the Sunday arrangement of 117, 118i & 118ii which would have a 'd'.
The Epiphany Octave is rather complex but, basically, after the Sunday within the Octave the first nocturn lessons are taken from Corinthians, not from the respective day within the Octave so Audet aliquis is the opening words of the lessons from Corinthians appointed for the Wednesday after the first Sunday after the Epiphany.
Ah, I understand. That means that the days in the octave have a different office based on their place before or after the Sunday within the octave; I didn't know that from this year's schedule.
But where could one find the festive psalms of Prime and the lessons from the Corinthians in the breviary? I'm looking for them but so far, no luck. And for 12th January it starts automatically with n2, I'm guessing because this day never falls before the Sunday within the octave.
Also, when the Ordo says on 8th January, that 'Off ut in fest et pr loco' this 'fest' refers to Epiphany or Holy Family? And 'pr loco' refers to local custom? I don't seem to be able to find the answers for these questions in the Ordo.
Yes, the arrangement of the Octave is different after the Sunday as then Corinthians are read in the first nocturn rather than Romans.
The festive psalms for Prime are given in 'Sunday at Prime' in the winter volume after the rubric saying when Pss 92 & 99 are added. It states that on certain feasts the arrangement is Pss 53, 118i & 118ii.
In the Breviary after the feast of the Epiphany the feast of the Holy Family is listed. Then, after that, the days within the Octave of the Epiphany and the Octave Day. After that one finds the 1st Sunday after the Epiphany and the lessons from Corinthians for the week.
On the 8th as it is a day within the Octave of the Epiphany it is to that feast it refers. 'pr loco' means in its proper place so, for example, antiphons and responsories of the feast etc, it is nothing to do with local custom.
Also, I don't seem to find information on the small horas (apart from were there is 'Off.' in the description). Is the (fff) and the (ff) is in the description of the day - like e.g. today - then the small hours have a ferial psalter as well, I presume. But after the ant./psalms, from the 'Capitulum' does it switch to the commune or proper of the feast, for example today, even though it's a semiduplex? How wold that be signaled in the ordo? Or is it just taken for granted that you know that if there's any feast, even if it's with ferial psalms, from the 'Capitulum' on, we switch to the office of the feast?
Basically, yes, on a day like today the ferial antiphons and psalms are used at all the Hours and that is considered the norm except where stated. The chapters, short responses etc are from the Common.
Monday should be the Sunday within the Octave of the Epiphany.
ReplyDelete@Paul,
ReplyDeleteIt is, in the sense the Mass of the Sunday is resumed (where of obligation) today. The Office of the Sunday does not get transferred, unlike the Sunday within the Octave of the Nativity in certain cases, as it is commemorated in the Office of the Holy Family.
The three letters in brackets at the beginning (pdF) seem to me a bit confusing. According to the Ordo, they relate to the antiphones and psalms of Matins and Lauds, but how could you have proper (p), Sunday (d) and festal (F) at the same time?
ReplyDeleteMy breviary says, the office is the same in the octave - apart from the proper Matins readings and Benedictus/Magnificat antiphones indicated at each day -, so I don't quite get what (pdF) signifies in this case.
Also things like 'Mat LL in 1n Audet aliquis'? I don't have a reading in the 1st nocturn of today starting like this.
Thanks for your help and for your great work!
@Petrus Augsutinus,
ReplyDeleteThe three letters relate to Mattins, Lauds and Prime. So, for instance, within this Octave they are pdF. At Prime on a feast the psalms are 53, 118i & 118ii as opposed to the Sunday arrangement of 117, 118i & 118ii which would have a 'd'.
The Epiphany Octave is rather complex but, basically, after the Sunday within the Octave the first nocturn lessons are taken from Corinthians, not from the respective day within the Octave so Audet aliquis is the opening words of the lessons from Corinthians appointed for the Wednesday after the first Sunday after the Epiphany.
@Rubricarius
ReplyDeleteAh, I understand. That means that the days in the octave have a different office based on their place before or after the Sunday within the octave; I didn't know that from this year's schedule.
But where could one find the festive psalms of Prime and the lessons from the Corinthians in the breviary? I'm looking for them but so far, no luck. And for 12th January it starts automatically with n2, I'm guessing because this day never falls before the Sunday within the octave.
Also, when the Ordo says on 8th January, that 'Off ut in fest et pr loco' this 'fest' refers to Epiphany or Holy Family? And 'pr loco' refers to local custom? I don't seem to be able to find the answers for these questions in the Ordo.
Thanks in advance!
@Petrus Augustinus,
ReplyDeleteYes, the arrangement of the Octave is different after the Sunday as then Corinthians are read in the first nocturn rather than Romans.
The festive psalms for Prime are given in 'Sunday at Prime' in the winter volume after the rubric saying when Pss 92 & 99 are added. It states that on certain feasts the arrangement is Pss 53, 118i & 118ii.
In the Breviary after the feast of the Epiphany the feast of the Holy Family is listed. Then, after that, the days within the Octave of the Epiphany and the Octave Day. After that one finds the 1st Sunday after the Epiphany and the lessons from Corinthians for the week.
On the 8th as it is a day within the Octave of the Epiphany it is to that feast it refers. 'pr loco' means in its proper place so, for example, antiphons and responsories of the feast etc, it is nothing to do with local custom.
Thanks very much, this was very helpful.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I don't seem to find information on the small horas (apart from were there is 'Off.' in the description). Is the (fff) and the (ff) is in the description of the day - like e.g. today - then the small hours have a ferial psalter as well, I presume. But after the ant./psalms, from the 'Capitulum' does it switch to the commune or proper of the feast, for example today, even though it's a semiduplex? How wold that be signaled in the ordo? Or is it just taken for granted that you know that if there's any feast, even if it's with ferial psalms, from the 'Capitulum' on, we switch to the office of the feast?
Thanks in advance?
@Petrus Augustinus,
ReplyDeleteIt might be easier if you email.
Basically, yes, on a day like today the ferial antiphons and psalms are used at all the Hours and that is considered the norm except where stated. The chapters, short responses etc are from the Common.